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THORNBURY TOWNSHIP BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS
Prior
to the Work Session tonight, the Board of Supervisors held a Conditional Use
Hearing on the Sweetwater Farm Bed & Breakfast, which began at
The
Thornbury Township Board of Supervisors held a public work session on
PRESENT:
Thomas M. Mallon, Chairman
William A. Lovejoy,
Vice-Chairman
Jay Uradnisheck, Supervisor
Deborah E. Perry,
Administrator
Robert P. Anderman, Esq.,
Township Solicitor
John J. Gillespie, PE,
Township Engineer
H. Fred Read, Public Works
Director
John R. Kinsey, Code
Administrator
GUEST:
James McCann, PE, Pennoni
Engineering
Lloyd Noll, Pennoni
Engineering
Alan
McCann,
Steve
Gantz,
Mr.
Lovejoy stated that we couldn’t legally require Cherry Farm Developers to do
anything since their plan has been finalized.
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Mr.
Uradnisheck stated that we can encourage them and asked if the Board would
write a letter encouraging them to help us out with this. Mr. Noll stated that the buffer would now
have to be added to the current forested area, at the edge.
Mr.
Gillespie stated that we might want to ask the developer for a sketch.
Mr.
Kinsey was asked to discuss this issue with the developer. This was placed on the Action Item List for
November 16th. Mr. Kinsey
will discuss this with the developer and invite them to come into our Board
meeting to discuss the buffer.
GREEN PROPERTY SUBDIVISION
ON
A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO EXECUTE RESOLUTION #23 OF2002, SUBDIVIDING A 2.165 ACRE LOT INTO
2 LOTS; LOT 1 TO REMAIN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USE; LOT 2 TO BE USED FOR MUNICIPAL
UTILITY PURPOSES.
Mr.
Uradnisheck asked if we need to explain that this subdivision is for
extraordinary reasons. Mr. Anderman
stated that this subdivision went before the Zoning Hearing Board for a
variance.
ON
A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO EXECUTE RESOLUTION #24 OF 2002, SUBDIVIDING EXISTING 4.03 ACRE
RESIDENTIAL LOT INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS; LOT 1 TO BE 2.015 ACRES AND LOT 2 TO BE
2.016 ACRES LOCATED AT 487 THORNTON ROAD.
Mr.
Read stated that Richard Schlosberg currently farms this area and has a lease
with the Township for an area in the upper field. Mr. Read explained that this came about
because a resident called the Township building stating that his dog had lime
all over his paws. At that time Richard
informed Mr. Read that he would be spraying the upper field with Roundup. The Park Board stated that they would prefer
that the upper field be taken over for recreation.
Mr.
Uradnisheck would like to know the hardship this creates on Mr. Schlosberg.
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Mr.
Schlosberg stated that he is currently farming hay in the field, but needs to
rotate the crop and may use it for corn or wheat. At some point he needs to use chemicals and
pesticides, once or twice per year. Mr.
Schlosberg feels that residents use more than that on their front lawns. Mr. Uradnisheck would hate to see another
piece of farm ground taken away.
The
Board held a general discussion on how the farming of this land came about
after Township ownership. Mr.
Uradnisheck is concerned and would like to do this on a more thoughtful rather
than reactive basis. Mr. Uradnisheck
would like to see it continue to be farmed until we get some type of plan in
order to use this for recreational purposes.
Mr.
Mallon asked Mr. Schlosberg if he farms the Cherry Farm, he does not.
Mr.
Mallon wanted to see this area, in front of the Cherry Property, farmed. Mr. Schlosberg stated that the area should
remain farmland. The Board held a
general discussion on the Brandywine Easement on Cherry Creek.
Mr.
Mallon would like to have a plan in place prior to the discontinue use of
farming. Mr. Schlosberg advised that
he needs to know one way or the other at the end of January. Mr. Schlosberg also stated that he would
like to be reimbursed for the limestone he put down if the Board decides not to
allow farming.
Mr.
Lovejoy would like to see what the Park Board proposes for this area. Mr. Anderman suggests the Park Board review
the old plans. There will be an Action
Item placed for the Park Board for a recommendation to the Board by January 1st.
Mr.
Read reported that bulbs were delivered today and will be bagged tonight.
Mr.
Read stated that he had to order a new Sliding Board for the Tot Lot at a cost
of about $900.00.
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The
Board discussed the odor problem and maybe this odor is from the Cheyney
Plant. There were reports that Saturday
night and last Sunday the Cheyney Plant
smelled. Mr. Mallon advised that Dr.
Pettus would be getting a letter of concern about this plant. Mr. Kinsey stated that he could get Rich
Brightenstein, DEP, to look at the plant to find out if there is a
problem. Mr. Mallon wants to send a
letter first.
Code Director’s Report –
John R. Kinsey
Mr. Kinsey had no report tonight.
Township Administrator’s
Report – Deborah E. Perry
ON
A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE GENERAL FUND CHECK REGISTER IN THE AMOUNT OF
$80,258.02.
ON
A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE SEWER FUND CHECK REGISTER IN THE AMOUNT OF
$29,515.97.
This
list has been updated and submitted for your review.
> SEPTA
Pennoni advised there are some problems at SEPTA,
but Mr. Lovejoy is working this another way.
> Planned
Apartment District
The Board held a general discussion and changed this
to an open item.
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This
is an amendment to an agreement, which has existed since 1952 on the shared
maintenance of common roadways; Slitting Mill Road and Old Gradyville Road.
ON
A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN EDGMONT & THORNBURY
TOWNSHIPS STATING THE RESPONSIBLITITY OF SNOW REMOVAL ON COMMONLY SHARED
ROADWAYS AS DESCRIBED IN THE AMENDMENT.
This
list has been updated and submitted for your review.
Mr.
Uradnisheck questioned whether the Administrator resolved the question on the
sewer connection fees, the special accounts and how this is set up. This is currently being added to the Sewer
ledger.
It
was reported that the first quarter franchise fee was never paid to the
Township. After a call to Comcast the
check was received in overnight mail.
ON
A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO RELEASE $194,984.00 FOR THE HAWTHORN SUBDIVISION.
Cherry
Creek Escrow Releases
Phase
I – 218,407.25
Phase
II – 276,722.00
Phase
IV – 56,367.50
Offsite
- $42,507.50
ON
A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO RELEASE ESCROW AS SUBMITTED IN A LETTER FROM PENNONI DATED
OCTOBER 19, 2002.
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Mr.
Uradnisheck questioned if there is any risk to us in releasing these
monies. Mr. Gillespie stated that these
releases pay their contractors.
Mr.
Gillespie reported that they had a meeting October 10th for the Sewer Treatment Plant Odors. A thorough inspection and samples were taken
from plant and pump stations. Mr.
Gillespie will issue a report next week.
Mr.
Gillespie reported that a final inspection on phase III has taken place
with comments forwarded to Toll Brothers.
Mr.
Gillespie reported that the reimbursement letter has been sent to DEP. The Township should receive a $23,000.00
reimbursement.
Mr.
Gillespie discussed the sewer connection.
Pennoni received a packet of information but they are waiting for Wawa
to revise the information. After
receiving the revised information, Pennoni will submit a recommendation on how
to sewer the Wawa property.
SEPTA
Mr.
Gillespie reported that the Board needs to enter into an agreement with Septa for
the east side project. A legal document
was sent today to Mr. Anderman’s Office.
Mr. Uradnisheck asked why the developers would not do this. Mr. Gillespie advised that SEPTA would only
talk to the municipality. The
outstanding issue is that Septa would not entertain an agreement until the
contractor prepared a plan of how they would be doing the work. Pennoni did not include this with their
original paperwork. The Developers group
had to prepare this plan. Mr.
Uradnisheck asked if the Board needed to place a motion to put power into our
Chairman’s hands to execute this agreement.
Mr. Gillespie advised favorably.
ON
A MOTION BY JAY URADNISHECK, SECONDED BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
TOWNSHIP AND SEPTA ON CONDITION THAT THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEER AND SOLICITOR
APPROVE THE DRAFT AGREEMENT.
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The
Board held a general discussion on the paving of Creek Road. Mr. Gillespie reported that the current
paving is not the final paving.
Mr.
Uradnisheck stated that he plans to have a meeting with Highpoint Drive,
Woodridge Road and Judith Lane residents, to discuss the cost for a gravity
feed line. Our Engineers are looking
at low-pressure lines; Highpoint would remain gravity. Permission was granted for Mr. Uradnisheck,
Township Engineer, and Township Solicitor to meet with these residents.
TOWNSHIP SOLICITOR’S REPORT
– Robert P. Anderman, Esq.
Walther
v Thornbury
Mr.
Anderman advised that Attorneys have worked out a stipulation that the present
shed that Yoder put on his property will remain. Parties have all signed the order.
ON
A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWNSHIP SOLICITOR TO SIGN THE STIPULATION
TOGETHER WITH ALL PARTIES AND HAVE THE COURT ENTER THE ORDER AND CONCLUDE THE
CASE.
Mr.
Uradnisheck, Mr. Anderman and Mr. Kinsey met with residents and a week later
has 9 people signed up with one check.
All 9 residents agree to put up 13,000 + and each one would put up 1/9
of the figure. The Chairman needs to
sign each agreement.
ON
A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AGREEMENTS FOR INSTALLATION
OF SEWER MAINS.
Pennoni
will instruct the contractor to put in 2” force main.
Mr.
Anderman reported that Mrs. Kressley signed a Deed of Easement for Utility
Construction and Maintenance for the sewer line. The Township waived the
capacity/administrative and permit fee for Mrs. Kressly.
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ON
A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVEJOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY TO EXECUTE THE DEED OF EASEMENT FOR UTILITY CONSTRUCTION AND
MAINTENANCE.
Mr.
Lovejoy discussed a letter from Comcast Cable stating they want to extend their
contract for 5 years. After a general
discussion, the Board would like to meet
with them, at a public meeting. Mr.
Anderman will invite them to a future
meeting.
Mr.
Anderman reported that at this time this ordinance is on hold. Mr. Lovejoy advised that this ordinance might
be done as part of the comprehensive plan.
Mr. Anderman was asked to prepare a draft ordinance.
Mr.
Anderman advised that he has prepared this ordinance for the Board to
review.
Mr. Mallon reminded Board members to send back the questionnaire to the consultant as soon as possible. This was e-mailed. Mr. Uradnisheck stated that he never received this. He will contact Ms. Hess.
The
Board authorized a letter to be submitted to Dr. Pettus about the odor from the
Cheyney STP, rather than go to the DEP.
Mr.
Barrett asked if the trail thru the SEPTA property could be added as a
condition to the Sewer Right of Way Paperwork. Mr. Gillespie will look into this.
Mr.
Read reported that there is an abandoned car located at Locksley Road, near
Bonner Park. This car must stay for 30
days because the owner has to be notified.
Mr. Anderman stated that anything, which is a danger, has to be taken
away.
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ON A MOTION BY WILLIAM LOVJEOY, SECONDED BY JAY URADNISHECK AND UNANIMOUSLY CARRIED TO ADJOURN. The meeting was adjourned at 10:15 p.m.